first impressions

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  • Jeremy Cath

    I agree on the 'secret' functions would be cool to have all the time, though I guess that means (like from a couple of other requests) that there needs to be a way for the Moto to wake up the app and have it doing it's magic in the background either every time the unit senses you start riding, or on a button push.

    re battery drain on the phone ... sadly that's something we're going to be stuck with because as the unit relies on the phone for the GPS location and other navigation functions it'll have to be active (though the bonus of using the Moto is that the screen isn't on like it is when I'm using Waze, or the battery drain won't be quite as bad). Pausing a ride (getting gas, snacks, stretching the legs or grabbing lunch) and pausing the GPS would help save some battery (and add a bit of flexibility to route planning to allow for ad hoc stops)

    I guess longer term now I don't have my phone on the handlebars (in easy reach of the USB charge point I also have at the front of the bike) I'm going to have to find a way to keep the phone topped up ... perhaps a USB feed off the SAE connector I use for my heated gloves...

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  • Agilealtitude

    This is the exact conundrum I’m thinking about, also. I do like the idea of the Moto. It is a paradigm shift from what we’re used to—both in terms of form and function. But the issue is indeed having to rely on a smart phone.

    It would seem foolish to have both the phone and Moto mounted at the same time, just to allow for the phone to remain plugged in. And given the huge drain on the phone battery when using GPS, longer trips with the Moto may not be practical.

    So, where does the Moto fit? Just shorter rides? Is it really practical without a built in GPS?

    In my personal scenario, I think I’ll be sticking with my Tom Tom 550 Rider that is powered and securely mounted. It is definitely not as cool as the Moto, but I’m not draining my iPhone, and I can interact with it with gloves on. But that is just my opinion. Oh, and when non-navigation mode is available, that will be pretty cool as only a small fraction of the rides I do actually require navigational assistance.

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  • Jeremy Cath

    with regard to the battery drain on the phone .... there are plenty of really good external batteries that can keep the phone charged even with GPS running (heck, the one I've got keeps the phone going with GPS and screen on playing Pokemon Go all day!) and especially if you're on a longer ride probably worth having as well. There are also a bunch of battery/SAE connectors to USB adapters on Amazon or eBay - I'll probably end up using the same wiring I have for my heated gloves (runs up from the side of the seat into my jacket via a quick-release connector) to provide USB power to my jacket pocket.

    I would love to see a Moto2 that does include more 'stand-alone' capabilities (internal GPS and ability to follow a route that's entered via the phone UI) but that suddenly becomes a much more expensive device (though some smart trade-offs between on-board capabilities vs what it can wake the phone up to offload functions such as dynamic re-routing to, to maybe keep the BOM and complexity costs down) ... but, Beeline never really sold this as a stand-alone device, it was always going to be paired with a phone with the battery life realities that entails

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