Accurate GPS Distances / Distance to Turn

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    Beeline Team

    Hey Shane, hmmm....sounds like there might be something else going on here. Please could you give us a couple of examples? How far out is it? And is that all the time, or sporadically? What phone are you pairing with it, and do you have any sort of battery saving enabled (eg. low power mode)? 

     

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  • Shane Thomas

    The distance to turn is at least 15meters out. I’ve even slowed to a crawl and still, the turn is - in reality - a minimum of 10-15 meters in front of that which is indicated on the device. Synced with iphone xs, newest os, connected to a powerbank for extra juice (definitely no powersaving) and the phone is on the bars (so exposed to the air for gps).

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  • Stuart Fisher

    With my Beeline, I recall that I have seen the GPS behave like that but it was one time only. The rest of the time it's been absolutely spot on (which is frankly amazing). I don't think it can have anything to do with the phone, the Beeline has its own GPS and compass. If you are using compass mode, double check that you've actually put the waypoints exactly where you think you have.

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  • Gregor Erdmann

    I think it is 15m out, because distance to the corner is calculated as distance to corner apex, rather that start of the corner. I too would like to see this improvement. 

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  • Stuart Fisher

    You've also got to bear in mind that GPS is only accurate to a few meters, and that's assuming the best weather conditions (which for most of my rides I've had). I really don't see a problem in any case. My Beeline starts to "make adjustments" when I get within 50 metres of the next waypoint, and it usually makes it absolutely clear which way I need to go.

     

    On the other hand, this discussion does make me wonder if the Beeline is ready for Galileo? If so, we should get much better accuracy, assuming that is we will be allowed to use Galileo after Brexit!!

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  • Gregor Erdmann

    Hey Stuart, do you have a bicycle or moto beeline.  On a motorcycle, its quite inaccurate - it says 40m to go, when you start to make the turn. 

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  • Shane Thomas

    Absolutely correct. I have basically stopped using the Beeline. It’s effectively useless. It cannot handle the high-speeds of a motorcycle. At the same time, one can clearly see the number of remaining metres descending even after you have come to a complete stop. That is to say if you stop directly on the corner, you will be told that you have 40 m to go, then at a complete standstill the metres displayed will come down to 0. Crazy.

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  • Stuart Fisher

    Sorry, to hear you are having so much trouble. I'm on a bicycle and it isn't like that at all for me. It does sound like the Beeline's processing just isn't fast enough to cope, but you'd have to get the Beeline team to confirm that is the problem.

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  • Gernot Hecht

    After I did the first ride with my beeline Moto , let me share my impressions concerning the content of this thread:

    In one case with two exits very near one to the other, I'm pretty sure that the beeline showed a distance to the next turn being to short and I took the first exit instead of the correct second one and I had to make a U turn on the next possibility. But beside that, the distance shown on the beeline seemed fine for me.

    But I don't get such a big use or the indicator for the current direction? Only once when I was in a residential area rolling at about 15 km/h, that indicator turned at the proper time to the right were I should take a junction so it was clear and easily visible to me (beside the distance getting to 0 ;-)) that I've to take that turn. But when you ride faster - even if it's only 40 km/h, only the indicated distance to the turn shows me that I've to take the next junction. I would prefer if the direction to follow indicator would turn in the direction of the junction to follow maybe 50 m or depending on speed even more in advance.

    My beeline is linked to an "old" iPhone 6.

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  • Jeremy Cath

    I've seen similar behaviour, where it's not that great at telling me how far to the junction ... as (unlike when I'm using my phone and Waze) we don't get the street name or another other visual indicator of what we're looking for next, it's super important to be able to trust the instructions ....

    case in point, on one of my first rides with the Moto there were two possible left turns coming up, one either side of the river ... as I was relying on the count-down I ended up taking the one on the far side of the river which meant... a u-turn and two right turns to get back to where I should have turned!

    I'm assuming that the Moto doesn't actually have GPS/Galileo/GLONASS/Beidou hardware built in (and certainly no A-GPS as there's no SIM) so it's relying on the phone ... and how different is the accuracy going to be hidden safely inside my jacket when riding because now I can have the Moto out exposed to the elements!

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  • Shane Thomas

    Thanks for all those comments guys. Actually, I am a little relieved that I am not alone in this. Beeline is clearly designed for bicycles, and simply not appropriately adapted for motorcycles. I’m shocked that it wasn’t tested with motorcycles before shipping. The performance is so poor I can’t imagine that it was tested with/for/by bikers.

    I’m also shocked, that the Beeline is dependent on the mobile. The whole point of purchasing this thing, was to have a GPS independent of the mobile. If the mobile battery dies, the beeline has problems with rerouting and rerouting is ALWAYS needed as the turn by turn is so inaccurate. So it doesn’t matter that the beeline “has an amazing batter” as its operation is entirely dependent on a bluetooth connection and the battery life of a mobile phone. Ridiculous.

    Very disappointed.

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  • Gernot Hecht

    Another impression from a ride today:

    I think the the distance is correctly showing the distance to the middle of the junction - but if it's a big junction, thats confusing! Today I stopped at the red light at a big junction and it showed a distance of 10 m to the turn. Well - that was accurate concerning the middle of the junction. But I had to choose the proper lane about 50 m earlier, so I need earlier a clear indication that I have to turn.

    But beside that, the ride was good and the beeline helpful to find my address.

    Regards,

    Gernot

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